Jean Mourad
Le sniper
Tu dois être cool à vivre au quotidien
COVID-19 : Les informations utiles
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rtrmhl
Rust never sleeps
Pour l'Italie, il existe peut-être une explication :
"La pyramide des âges (...) a une forme de sapin de Noël, typique des populations vivant la dénatalité et en voie de vieillissement accéléré. La pyramide est fort semblable à celles de l'Espagne et de l'Allemagne. On peut constater que les personnes âgées de 75 à 79 ans sont plus nombreuses que les enfants de 0 à 4 ans."
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Démographie_de_l'Italie#Pyramide_des_âges_de_l'Italie
Squall89
B(o)uglanger de Gamerz
Ca explique la mortalité, pas la propagation
rtrmhl
Rust never sleeps
C'est effectivement à la mortalité que je pensais. Pour la propagation, ça pourrait être le tourisme (mais la propagation m'intéresse moins, je l'avoue).
Squall89
B(o)uglanger de Gamerz
Je pense surtout que l'Italie a réagit trop tard (il y a pres d'un mois entre la détection des touristes chinois positifs et le debut de la campagne de test). En Belgique on a directement repéré les cas positifs entrants et on a retracé dans la foulée leur contact
oeildesatan
oeildesatan
je n'ai plus l'âge de lire ce genre revue mais est ce peut être ton cas…. et si tu lis tous tu comprendras peut être (ou pas ) de où cela vient vraiment… mais bon je serais vraiment étonnée
eGm_
Gibon Blasé
mayflower
Elite
Je connais un mec qui vend des masque fpp2 10 pour 60euro j'ai envie de prendre tout son stock et les distribuer mais à qui ?
Squall89
B(o)uglanger de Gamerz
A Thibz, il va mettre les 10 d'un coup
Tkzkzar
Le flairant
Tu n'achètes pas car tu n'as pas envie de participer à ce marché gris et tu rappelles à ce fdp qu'il ferait mieux d'aller les donner à un hôpital ou à médecin qui en ont vraiment besoin.
Chamallow
Ololz
Hum, j'ai une connaissance dont la marraine (73ans) de sa soeur a chopé le virus en allant à l'hopital Ambroise Paré à Mons.
Donc 3 personnes ont été en contact direct avec cette marraine, la soeur et les parents. Le médecin a refusé de prescrire des examens.
Par contre ils doivent rester isolés chez eux selon les directives données.
Donc 3 personnes ont été en contact direct avec cette marraine, la soeur et les parents. Le médecin a refusé de prescrire des examens.
Par contre ils doivent rester isolés chez eux selon les directives données.
Markhor
Elite
Les directives d'isolement et de non cobtact/elbowbumb/gelhydroalcolique etc ne sont faites que pour éviter le pic d'infection et permettre à la structure médicale de soigner et d'absorber à un rythme qu'elle sait assumer (> < italie) mais à priori il y a u moment où on ne peux plus tracer les contacts des gens infectés, et on en est pas loin..
Markhor
Elite
Pour ceux qui aiment les graphiques, et pour les autres. Squall89 tu peux comparer ton boulot..https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coro...nzN1lT2dCNBk38qiAauFEjBfMkKsBjNx-yBQ99WBLhJNk
Kuzco El Lama
Elite
si pas encore posté
mayflower
Elite
J'ai appelé mon médecin traitant et lui a donner l'info ou en trouver pour qu'il se protège car il va toujours chez les gens.
Globi
💩💩💩💩💩
Une connaissance vient de poster ceci sur fb, je sais pas quoi en penser, pas sûr que ça me fasse changer mon opinion sur la situation (qui est réglée sur "meh"). Faites en ce que vous voulez :
"I am writing to you from Bergamo, Italy, at the heart of the coronavirus crisis. The news media in the US has not captured the severity of what is happening here. I am writing this post because each of you, today, not the government, not the school district, not the mayor, each individual citizen has the chance, today to take actions that will deter the Italian situation from becoming your own country’s reality. The only way to stop this virus is to limit contagion. And the only way to limit contagion is for millions of people to change their behavior today.
If you are in Europe or the US you are weeks away from where we are today in Italy.
I can hear you now. “It’s just a flu. It only affects old people with preconditions”
There are 2 reasons why Coronavirus has brought Italy to it’s knees. First it is a flu is devastating when people get really sick they need weeks of ICU – and, second, because of how fast and effectively it spreads. There is 2 week incubation period and many who have it never show symptoms.
When Prime Minister Conte announced last night that the entire country, 60 million people, would go on lock down, the line that struck me most was “there is no more time.” Because to be clear, this national lock down, is a hail mary. What he means is that if the numbers of contagion do not start to go down, the system, Italy, will collapse.
Why? Today the ICUs in Lombardy are at capacity – more than capacity. They have begun to put ICU units in the hallways. If the numbers do not go down, the growth rate of contagion tells us that there will be thousands of people who in a matter of a week? two weeks? who will need care. What will happen when there are 100, or a 1000 people who need the hospital and only a few ICU places left?
On Monday a doctor wrote in the paper that they have begun to have to decide who lives and who dies when the patients show up in the emergency room, like what is done in war. This will only get worse.
There are a finite number of drs, nurses, medical staff and they are getting the virus. They have also been working non-stop, non-stop for days and days. What happens when the drs, nurses and medical staff are simply not able to care for the patients, when they are not there?
And finally for those who say that this is just something that happens to old people, starting yesterday the hospitals are reporting that younger and younger patients – 40, 45, 18, are coming in for treatment.
You have a chance to make a difference and stop the spread in your country. Push for the entire office to work at home today, cancel birthday parties, and other gatherings, stay home as much as you can. If you have a fever, any fever, stay home. Push for school closures, now. Anything you can do to stop the spread, because it is spreading in your communities – there is a two week incubation period – and if you do these things now you can buy your medical system time.
And for those who say it is not possible to close the schools, and do all these other things, locking down Italy was beyond anyone’s imagination a week ago.
Soon you will not have a choice, so do what you can now.
Please share."
"I am writing to you from Bergamo, Italy, at the heart of the coronavirus crisis. The news media in the US has not captured the severity of what is happening here. I am writing this post because each of you, today, not the government, not the school district, not the mayor, each individual citizen has the chance, today to take actions that will deter the Italian situation from becoming your own country’s reality. The only way to stop this virus is to limit contagion. And the only way to limit contagion is for millions of people to change their behavior today.
If you are in Europe or the US you are weeks away from where we are today in Italy.
I can hear you now. “It’s just a flu. It only affects old people with preconditions”
There are 2 reasons why Coronavirus has brought Italy to it’s knees. First it is a flu is devastating when people get really sick they need weeks of ICU – and, second, because of how fast and effectively it spreads. There is 2 week incubation period and many who have it never show symptoms.
When Prime Minister Conte announced last night that the entire country, 60 million people, would go on lock down, the line that struck me most was “there is no more time.” Because to be clear, this national lock down, is a hail mary. What he means is that if the numbers of contagion do not start to go down, the system, Italy, will collapse.
Why? Today the ICUs in Lombardy are at capacity – more than capacity. They have begun to put ICU units in the hallways. If the numbers do not go down, the growth rate of contagion tells us that there will be thousands of people who in a matter of a week? two weeks? who will need care. What will happen when there are 100, or a 1000 people who need the hospital and only a few ICU places left?
On Monday a doctor wrote in the paper that they have begun to have to decide who lives and who dies when the patients show up in the emergency room, like what is done in war. This will only get worse.
There are a finite number of drs, nurses, medical staff and they are getting the virus. They have also been working non-stop, non-stop for days and days. What happens when the drs, nurses and medical staff are simply not able to care for the patients, when they are not there?
And finally for those who say that this is just something that happens to old people, starting yesterday the hospitals are reporting that younger and younger patients – 40, 45, 18, are coming in for treatment.
You have a chance to make a difference and stop the spread in your country. Push for the entire office to work at home today, cancel birthday parties, and other gatherings, stay home as much as you can. If you have a fever, any fever, stay home. Push for school closures, now. Anything you can do to stop the spread, because it is spreading in your communities – there is a two week incubation period – and if you do these things now you can buy your medical system time.
And for those who say it is not possible to close the schools, and do all these other things, locking down Italy was beyond anyone’s imagination a week ago.
Soon you will not have a choice, so do what you can now.
Please share."
Liandoran
Redeemer and Destroyer
Ça rigole pas en Italie, fermeture de tous les commerces excepté les pharmacie et l'alimentation... Financièrement la crise va coûter cher
Jean Mourad
Le sniper
Va plus y avoir beaucoup de chats en rue...
@lex
Elite
Au moins, ils font quelque chose pour enrayer la propagation...
Squall89
B(o)uglanger de Gamerz
Le graphique donne le nbr par date, pas par "jour après début d'épidémie".
Si j'oublie pas je le poste demain
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